Logitech G Extreme 3D Pro USB Joystick for Windows – Black/Silver

Excelent beginners joystick.
For starters, it’s cheap, functional, and durable enough, but don’t expect it to be a HOTAS.I would say that anyone who is interested in using a joystick for a game like war thunder should buy this stick. To understand what I’m trying to say please realize that this is coming from someone who bought this stick for the explicit reason of starting out on a joystick. It has almost been a year since I bought it, and I want to discuss using joysticks versus the mouse before I discuss this one model.Anyone who is buying a joystick for the first time needs to understand the very different world they are entering when they do so. I don’t want anyone being deceived; it is much more difficult to use a joystick than a mouse. The joystick does give you more authority over the aircraft than mouse and keyboard, which can be an obvious advantage. However, the mouse and keyboard allows you to focus on simply pointing the aircraft where you want to go and employing the weapons while the computer optimizes the control inputs. With the joystick you are the one that eases the aircraft into and out of the turn; you set the banking of the aircraft. This is not as easy as it seems at first. When you first start, your brain will want to think that all you have to do to bank the aircraft ten degrees is to hold the stick at a ten degree angle. The next thing you know the aircraft is upside down because you forgot to return the stick to neutral. Like I said, it’s a very different experience and it requires a bit of a learning curve. In fact, most people stick to flying with the mouse and keyboard because of the difficulty of transitioning, and the time it can take to start getting kills with the joystick (I still do better with the mouse than the joystick).Now, in regards to this particular product, Logitech has a reputation with me of making virtually indestructible computer peripherals. Okay, so they’re made of flimsy plastics. But they have still survived many drops and some rough handling from yours truly. Additionally I would say that the price is right for something you might buy, use a couple of times, and then never touch again. And the product gives you everything you need in order to have full authority over your aircraft. This way you can at least make an informed decision whether or not you want to use a joystick; then you can upgrade to a more expensive HOTAS system if you so choose.Durability is apparently a hit or miss proposition. I have seen many reviews saying that the neutral position will shift over time. I have not seen this. The only problem that I have seen so far is that the hat switch was unusable on Microsoft Flight. This scared me at first, but when I got the joystick to work on War Thunder (not the easiest thing to do), the hat switch worked fine.The only real gripes I have with the Extreme 3D Pro are that it isn’t a HOTAS nor will it ever be one, and that the stick is a little rough when switching roll or pitch direction. This last complaint is commonly mentioned in the reviews of every joystick I looked at below 100 dollars. This is only a problem when making very intricate maneuvers such as when dog fighting. In fact it only started to become a problem for me when I was trying to fly in War Thunder’s realistic mode, and it became a substantial issue when I tried simulator mode.CONCLUSION: this is not a stick for the simulator enthusiast. This is a starter stick, something you can buy without guilt if you decide you don’t enjoy flying with a joystick. And for those who do enjoy flying with joysticks, it is something that can be used until they can get a more complex system. This is after all nothing but a joystick with throttle axis and a few buttons. Those who like joysticks will eventually want more buttons and a better throttle, but those cost money and money causes guilt if you’re not among the joystick enthusiasts.

Great Value
I did not expect much, but it actually has been a surprisingly good value. It feels good, and sturdy, and has not had any issues. Again, this joystick really is a good value. There was no stick drift, and it felt solid. I upgraded to a HOTAS Thrustmaster for more buttons and a separate throttle, and the stick motion and resistance feels similar. I am keeping the Logitech as a back-up, which I can trust will not disappoint if I need it.

A great stick for those wanting more realistic, immersive control of flight sim style games. Especially if your on a budget.
I recently tried the War Thunder Beta and decided I needed a decent budget price joystick. Mouse and keyboard control is the simplest but not very rewarding neither does it feel like you are actually flying.I chose the Logitech Extreme 3D after reading some decent reviews and having used many Logitech products in the past and always been pleased with performance and reliability.The Logitech Extreme 3D Pro is no exception. It has been around and unchanged quite a few years. It has a heavy solid base with grippy rubber pads that stick to the desk without using suction cups or any other annoying contraptions. The stick feels solid and centers well. It’s not force feedback, but to be honest force feedback is mostly a gimmick and can put off your aim if it jolts at a bad moment. Modern planes do not use cables where old ones do so I suppose the force feedback may be nice in a biplane but anything modern probably not.It has full pitch, roll and yaw rudder control. Rudder by twisting the stick and 12 buttons plus a digital hat switch (small joystick on top).Setting up is dead simple. For best results calibrate your joystick with the OS first and then use the proprietary software.The stick is far more accurate than any of the game pads I used previously. The 360 and playstation sticks only managed about 70% of travel in the diagonals like a rounded diamond. Where the Logitech manages 0 – 100%The rudder works well but does need some discipline when you are flying a combat plane in a tense situation. In Arcade it’s not such a big deal, but in a more realistic flight model rudder can throw your plane into a flat spin which will put you out of action pretty fast. Especially if you don’t have the altitude to recover.The throttle works well but it very sensitive, especially at the top of the range. If you have afterburn and can push the throttle beyond max for short periods like you can in War Thunder you may want to get some software to allow you to set curves and ease off the top end of the throttle.The buttons are all precise digital buttons and the hat switch works well for looking around the plane and getting fair situation awareness.So for this game it’s a great. The stick comes with no software, but there is a profiler configuration program for it available from the Logitech website. It’s worth installing as it does offer you some flexibility if you play several games and want to tweak how the stick performs.If you want the ultimate utility for configuring the stick I recommend Pinnacle Game Profiler. Which lets you set a lot of actions with quite a lot of flexibility. Long button hold for alternate functions, or setting your own modifier/shift button. As well as custom dead zone, sensitivity etc.Anyway it’s a great stick. As I mentioned before mouse control is easiest with the game I’m playing. But joystick feels so much more real and immersive and gives you an edge if you use the more advanced combat modes with realistic physics. A great stick that I highly recommend. Especially for the relatively low price.It’s a great beginner introductory stick to get you into flight sims.

Good Beginner Flight Stick.Used for I-L2 Sturmovik Flight Sim/ Win 11 Operating softwareNo Issue with driver support as listed in some reviews.Must be plugged in before starting the game or the device will not function.Functions as advertised, all buttons and axis respond and bind in game without any additional software in my case.Does have some slop (~2mm pitch and roll, ~3 yaw, around deadzone only)Very sensitive stick, once the few mm of slack is up in the axis past the deadzone, formation flying and precision is quite possible with this stick.Yaw function is a bit sloppy but very functional and my only complaint about the unit would be the slightly excessive tolerances in the twist/yaw axis. Centers up nicely and has even output in the axis without any drift so it is appreciated minding this is in a budget item.Small included throttle lever on the stick is very crisp and sensitive, has a smooth but noticeable resistance, Very impressed with the quality that in particular, Has a good trigger as well.Buttons on the base are decent, thumb buttons on the handle of the stick have a bit of play but better quality than I expected overall for the buttons so I’m content.

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